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Hi everyone. I'm Emily.
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And I'm Vince.
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And this is the Lighthouse Lowdown.
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today so hope you are too. History Buoy is a historical event that actually happened just a
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couple weeks ago. Whoa. I know. Okay. It's gonna go down in history. I know it. It is about putting
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a Fresnel lens back into service which is I told you about it the other day when I saw it on
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Instagram. Here is the Instagram post for those of us who are watching on YouTube. It's by Montauk
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Point Lighthouse. MTK underscore lighthouse on Instagram. They posted a picture of their three
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and a half order Fresnel lens there by valve back in the lantern room of the lighthouse. The old
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owl's eye configuration. Very exciting owl's eye. Single owl's eye. That was on Monday November 6
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at 6 p.m. on the dot. They brought the Fresnel lens back into life in Montauk Point Lighthouse.
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Three and a half order. So why is this historical? Because it has been 36 years since this Fresnel
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lens was back in the lighthouse. And as far as I know it's not a thing for the Coast Guard to put
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a Fresnel lens back up in a lantern room when they have cheaper less expensive options to
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maintain that which originally there was an arrow beacon in this lantern room but it was so dull
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that Mia Sertik who's the executive director of the Montauk Historical Society who owns and
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maintains this lighthouse. She said that the main light, the beacon in this lighthouse was
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dimmer than just like the lights outside the lighthouse like lamps and stuff. Geez. Yeah.
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This lens was manufactured specifically for Montauk Point Lighthouse hence the special size and shape
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which we talk about a lot in our episode devoted to the Montauk Point Lighthouse. They made this in
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1902 and it was in service from 1903 until 1987 when the Coast Guard installed the arrow beacon.
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So the return of the Fresnel lens is part of a two-year pilot program to help the Coast Guard
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gather data about Fresnel lenses quote operation and condition in an environmentally controlled
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lantern room and this is from an article they published on Tuesday in the United States Coast
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Guard News. They also said quote this pilot program aims to quantify and document standards
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of care required to maintain operating Fresnel lenses and to establish appropriate plans of
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action for the remaining Fresnels operating across the Coast Guard. For the next two years the Coast
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Guard will partner with MHS to ensure proper care of the Fresnel lens and lantern room environmental
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data monitoring end quote. So basically they're doing this because there are still about 50
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Fresnel lenses still in service and they want to see the best ways to care for a Fresnel lens
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in like a very controlled environment. So like if everything's in perfect condition like if we
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install these things how can we best care for Fresnel lenses so that they can remain in service
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without having to be replaced. And this is the Coast Guard's being trained or okay? Yeah exactly.
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And the Coast Guard is maintaining the light at Montauk Point Lighthouse but only the light? Yes
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only the beacon and the rest of it's all the Montauk Historical Society. Nice is this one I
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can't remember on Montauk is it accessible this lantern room? Accessible? Yeah to public or is it
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probably not? I doubt you could go inside I think that was part of the part of the sadness of me
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finding this out is that you can't go and you know admire the handiwork of the Fresnel lens up close
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anymore it's no longer like a public thing because originally it was in the museum at Montauk Point
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where you could go and check it out. Yeah and is this a new lens that they installed or is this a
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refurbished one they had they're really this is the one that was in the museum yeah they just took
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out of the museum isn't that so cool? That's so cool. I know 36 years it was down there and then
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they were just like let's clean it up so they had to do a lot of work to prep the Fresnel lens for
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going back in a service but because right now there's only five Coast Guard lampists that can
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care for Fresnel lenses. That is wild. Yeah so Mia Sercic said that the restoration and renovation
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of the lighthouse that we recently talked about served to prepare for this as the tower was
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weakened by water damage which would have made supporting this extremely heavy Fresnel lens
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pretty dangerous in the lighthouse so she said that they weren't um what's the word like approved
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yet to be part of this project but they still kept it in mind as they were renovating the lighthouse
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just in case it was approved and they could go ahead with it. Right keep it as an option. So they
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had to prepare the lantern room for the optimum conditions for the lens such as UV light filtering
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window film a new ventilation system and state-of-the-art temperature humidity and dewpoint
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monitors and they also had to they had to like refurbish the lens as well they had to
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give it a new pedestal and all the mercury had to be removed from its base because originally it was
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on a mercury float system. Yeah. And I think that may have been true for when it was in the museum
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they had it in a mercury float system so you could watch what was happening up close but I also feel
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like that would be such a safety hazard that maybe I don't know. I think mercury is safe as long as
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you don't physically contact it. Yeah. Or ingest it. I just wouldn't trust the public to not try to touch it.
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But maybe it was closed off in some way I don't know I just oh my god they said that they had
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to actively go and remove like make sure that all the mercury was removed so remediation. Yeah so
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maybe that's either from when it was used you know almost four decades ago or maybe it was hey we
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just took it out of this float system we're gonna have to clean it out. I would like to learn more
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about that because I think that you know like mercury as a liquid bed I'd like to see how that
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worked but also today we have like like Delrin. Are you familiar with Delrin? No. So Delrin is a
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I'm pretty sure it's a product of Dow Chemical so they make a lot of cool stuff or like 3M one of
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those companies chemical companies that makes a bunch of different products but Delrin is a plastic
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that I didn't learn about until I worked on my senior design project but it's like a super slick
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plastic. Oh. It's used in like assembly lines and high use areas like where you're producing
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something you have a contact where you need to contact a product or something where it's
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it's plastic but it's like a lubricated surface permanently. Very slippery. Yeah just do I think
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it's a polymer technically so due to the due to the properties of the material itself lubricates
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yeah without a film without oil without graphite you know the other types of lubrication so. That's
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interesting. I'm surprised there's not been some type of I'm sure there is some type of joint or
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bushing or a bearing I guess is the word I'm looking for. That's not mercury based I'm sure
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there are but I don't know what that technology is today. Does it have a high like can it handle
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lots of weight on it or. I think there are there's definitely limits to each application. Yeah maybe
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that's what's holding them back because I know these are very very heavy tons. But this is well
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this is probably the most modern beacon in the United States then. I mean if they're talking
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about ventilation systems moisture control the glass conditioning I mean that's it's literally
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probably the newest one. Yeah. It's interesting. They had to restore the lens and have it cleaned
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by Jim Woodward and a new pedestal and gear mechanism was built by Kurt Fosberg both from
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the five qualified lampists that I mentioned earlier. Talk to them. Yeah. We heard about Kurt
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Fosberg a while ago from Carl Lindquist and Fred Stonehouse. They mentioned that that's someone
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that we should probably talk to and Kurt was also was a cult. He was a technical director or something
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to do with Fresnel lenses in the movie The Lighthouse with Robert. Oh that's right. He was the advisor.
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I don't know the title. I know I can't remember what it was but we found him on the scrolling list
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of names at the end of the credits. Do we talk to him. I can't remember. We haven't. No. We'll need
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to reach out. We need to check in with all of our contacts. I know. Quite a community we need to
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keep up with. That would be a cool episode talking about how he what he does as his job as a lampist
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for the Coast Guard. That would be awesome. But anyway so after the program Mia Sertic and the
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people of Montauk are hoping the lens will stay there for good. But for now it's just kind of a
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two year plan and after that they don't really know what's going to happen. But hoping it'll
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get to remain up there forever. So it's a kind of a temporary training program. Yes. With the
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possibility of extending. That's cool. I think it's interesting they can't or in this at least in
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this instance the arrow beacon wasn't as bright as they needed. Yeah. Especially given sound. I'm
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guessing now but other LED technology the lights you know streetlights and area lights around the
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tower were even more impressive than it is crazy. You can't you like you cannot replicate the power
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of a Fresnel lens like you either have to be OK with taking the cut to the light. You know you're
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you're what's it called. Your beacon is light. Oh the intensity. Yeah light intensity luminosity.
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Making words up now. Well I'm working on a project luminous intensity. I think that's actually what
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it is. Yeah luminosity. Sounds like the Illuminati. But you either have to take that with your you
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know your lower amount of maintenance or you just have to have a Fresnel lens. There's no better way.
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Yeah. I'm working on a project. I won't say where it's at but it's a medical health care facility.
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And I'm helping to design the plumbing HVAC parts of it. So you know but there are boilers in this
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very large building and the boilers have a stack. So the stack is effectively a tower. The tower goes
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up 170 roughly 170 feet in the air maybe 200 feet. And we've talked about the team has talked
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about how do you add a light to the top of the tower because you need some way for you know
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medical helicopters or other aircraft. Be aware. I think it's an FAA regulation and there's other
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people looking into it that are not not me not my scope of work. But it makes me smile. It's like oh
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you have a big tower. You want to put a light on top. I've got an idea. Suggestive Fresnel. Yeah.
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It's not the cheapest. Yeah. Well it requires a lot of maintenance. And then they also this conversation
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also went in. I didn't chime in. I should have just for chuckles. But well we have to have we
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have to have access for someone to be able to change a light bulb if we put an electronic light
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up there. It's like yep you sure do. You would need like a stair tower. Yeah. You should do like
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a winding staircase. So it made me smile. But there's lots of it's funny that it's still a
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a challenge even though. Yeah. Right. Totally different than the lighthouse. Yeah. Still relevant.
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But yeah that was my history boy. I think that this is like a very big step but like an important
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thing in lighthouse history that we're putting Fresnel lenses back into service man. Yeah. It
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could be big news if I mean the one is big news but it could be big news if this is continued over
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the next couple of years. Yeah. I'm sure it won't be a big wave of new lenses because this is just
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for like a pilot program but very cool. So you talk to me once on an episode about the production
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of Fresnel lenses mostly in France. I we didn't post that episode. So I'll have to redo that
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history so that people can actually. I thought it was really interesting. Yeah. It was a long one.
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It was a long history but I think that's a good one I need to bring back. I think it was so long
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and so labor intensive that I think it should be its own standalone. Yeah. Well it's yeah they're
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very interesting to me. It's not a common piece of technology and it's the history that I remember is
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a lot of technology changes over time. I've come into the same product. Yeah. And also you know
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the demand obviously has changed. So that's probably changed industry too. Yeah that's true. So to get
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a new or to restore Fresnel lens these lampists that sounds really unique as well as shipping
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that thing. Oh my gosh. Can you imagine the bubble wrap. Oh so much bubble wrap. So much foam styrofoam.
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So yeah. Well cool. Good good history. Everyone go check out MTK underscore lighthouse on Instagram
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and you can see the Fresnel lens for yourself back in the Lantern Room. They have an excellent
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photo of it. I think it looks like in the morning or something and it's rainbow. All the all the
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prisms are lit up. It's gorgeous. Really nice. Very cool. So we're going to move on to our
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lighthouse of the day and actually it's Lighthouses. Oh. A special episode. All right. Of multiple
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lighthouses. It's still in service not like they kept having to. Yeah not one after another. Yeah they didn't have to keep
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having. They did. There is a lot of action going on in this episode when it comes to lighthouses. So
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we're going to Grand Haven Michigan on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan. Okay. And it's known for its
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sandy beaches and beautiful lighthouses. The city was founded in 1834 and was named Grand Haven in
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recognition of its safe and spacious harbor which I thought was cute. Let's name it a haven. A grand one.
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Yeah a grand haven. Only a couple of years later a lighthouse was suggested for a couple of reasons.
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One being the river was the largest by far that emptied into Lake Michigan. So it's going to be a hubbub
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and it was the only place on the east shore that large vessels could shelter from bad weather. So
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they needed it to be well represented with lighthouses. I'm surprised they didn't call it
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Great Haven. Well we were talking about the 1800s. Great wasn't. Do they call them the Great Lakes?
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Or they're the Grand Lakes at the time. Think about it. You got me there. Maybe because it was the Great Lakes
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they didn't want to name it Great Haven. They wanted to be special. Grand Haven. Grand is better than
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great. Great Grand Wonderful. That's what they say. Who says that? It's a line from Billy Madison. Oh.
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I was like what? So anyway the dwelling in the tower were made of stone from Green Bay while the stone steps
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were from Cleveland. I don't know why they specified the different types of stones.
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The stairs were fancy and the rest of it wasn't. I'm not sure. I don't know. It was lit in 1839.
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It's 30 feet tall with a fixed white light and was right there on the beach which is not the best idea.
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It's beautiful but technically not a good idea. Very scenic but you know not for very long. They built a timber wall to help
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try and protect the property from the waves which if you have to build a wall to protect something
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that you built there in the first place. Out of timber. Yeah then maybe you should have thought about that.
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But in 1852 storm waves broke down this wall and pummeled the lighthouse and it was brought down the next day
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by all the water. So it took another two years before they started to work on making a replacement and
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this time they learned from their mistakes and built the lighthouse on a bluff above the old location
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which is just like a little cliff and they finished in 1855. I have a little photo. Oh cool.
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Wow. It's an old one. A lot of these pictures are actually from the US LHS. They're archives. I have a link to
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it was basically a huge word document that had a bunch of historical documents and then the next
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was like their plans for restoring these lighthouses that I'll talk about and all the phases of
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all the phases. This is a picture of the one that was on the bluff. They called it upper lighthouse which
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is going to be relevant. It was 24 feet tall. It was made of rubble stone and had a circular tower connected to a
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six room one and a half story dwelling. I think that maybe the half like nowadays if you have a half
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half level it's like what a half a half level on the other side of the building.
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Well but that's just like an attic or something right like a
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like a half level it's like you have a loft or something. Okay that must have been what it was but six rooms. That's pretty good.
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In the lantern room they had a bullseye panel and this was cool a bullseye panel revolving around a fixed
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fourth order lens to produce a white flash every 90 seconds. So we've talked about it once before but
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I've never covered a lighthouse that actually had it standalone in the lighthouse room.
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But it's like a singular bullseye panel and then attached to it is a bunch of just like metal
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sheeting and it goes around the lantern so that everything is covered except for this one
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bullseye lens. There's no image we have of that. No it's unfortunate but no. It's too long ago. I'm
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shocked that they even had a photo. They took it in the 1880s which is like really early on in photos.
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I was just gonna say I've got to be picky. How much effort went into taking this photo right?
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You know you like load up the little flash thing and set up your little tunnel and they took it
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with the trees blocking 90% of the landscape. They wanted to get the whole lighthouse in there.
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If they took okay they didn't do it from a boat I guess but that way yeah maybe they couldn't.
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I think this is probably the best they could do with their modern technology. Unmodern. Anyway
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people should go check out our YouTube and you can see this picture. It's not that bad.
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Taking it in the 1880s. Vince is really being picky. It was raised another four feet and got a new
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lantern room in 1868 and this lighthouse is just gonna kind of chill here for the next 40ish years.
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So this is 1868. This is yeah. Because it's 1880s is the photo. New lantern room raised four feet.
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So this lighthouse we're gonna talk about it just barely anymore. The rest of this episode
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yeah is about the other lighthouses that are built. So in 1858 the Detroit and Milwaukee
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railroad established a ferry line to Grand Haven from Detroit and so they added a pier so that they
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could you know they added a pier. For the ferry. Yeah and they maintained their own light on it.
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It was small and it was discontinued pretty soon after because the pier was so long that they
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didn't really know like the pier was so far out there that they couldn't maintain the light.
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You have to have someone walk out on the pier and as you know Lake Michigan. Pretty wild. Yeah
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so it was very difficult to go out there and maintain it so they eventually discontinued it.
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This is where I started to really struggle with keeping track of all of these lighthouses and
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like all these faces and I skipped a couple of things that were just too confusing for me to
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figure out. Everybody okay this is like that game where you hide something under a cup and you
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Michelle game. Mix them all around and trying to guess like it's like there's a light but all of
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a sudden now there isn't a light but now there's three lights and you switch two of them around
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and one was white and now it's red like it's almost like you got gas lit all of what
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I'm just saying that researching these lighthouses was very very difficult and
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if I'm not totally correct someone who knows should let me know but like our well our trusted
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resources US LHS the website for this lighthouse and lighthouse friends all had information that
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was different from each other. Oh contradicting. Yes or like the lighthouse friends had it had one
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paragraph that was very confusing I just ignored it eventually because I was like I can't find
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anything that substantiates this information and it doesn't make sense to me so I just anyway.
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So let's put a big asterisk this is I think that's how do you pronounce it asterisk asterisk
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the asterisk is that right asterisk asterisk we'll put a big one of those
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and say this is your best interpretation. Yes this is my interpretation of the history
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of the Grand Haven Lighthouses. Gotcha. So in 1870 the lighthouse board requested eight thousand
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dollars for a new wooden tower 1200 feet of elevated walkway on this existing pier and a bell.
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So this was their solution to not being able to access the lighthouse as they put an elevated
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walkway on top of the pier so that when waves are crashing down below and I'll show a picture of this
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at the end they would still be able to just walk above the waves and go to light so it was originally
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made of wood eventually they changed it to iron I think. Sounds so sketchy. I know like
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you better make sure and they had a ton of this elevated walkway had lakes every like couple of
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feet so if something was damaged there was no way it was all going to be taken out at the same time.
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Yeah but it's attached to the pier right? Yeah but the pier is made of stone it wasn't like oh okay
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yeah it was like um it went down to the to the the bottom of the yeah the bottom of the lake.
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I sorry I've got it uh asterisk asterisk that was a weird voice I don't like that.
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A couple years later well here let me show a photo. Oh cool. So here is their original boat. Yeah
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super cool boat but this was their original lights just like a little lamp has some legs on it and
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you can see in this picture the elevated walkway coming off the top. That is terrifying. What?
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Imagine the the pier is just engulfed in flames and there's rolling
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coffee's getting a little strong engulfed in water yeah and the waves are just rolling over it and
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you got to go tend to the light you're just walking like that would be a little sketchy for the waves
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and there's nothing keeping like water spray you'd be soaking wet by the time you got over there
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but you'd have an awesome trench coat oh yeah they probably have like all their galoshes and stuff
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in 18 okay so that was in 1870 a couple years later they built a fog signal building which was
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installed directly behind this pier headlight wow so look at those horns so cool yeah so that's
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it's a pretty big fog house going on there i think they took a lot of effort to make steam at those
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days yeah and they had to make sure that was really sturdy because if they had to build a walkway
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which you could walk above the waves well you got to build that thing so that waves can hit it
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without destroying it wow in like during the 1880s this pier was lengthened like every couple of
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years which ended up moving the light in the fog house like further and further out into the lake
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and in december 1886 there was this huge storm that forced the light back 12 feet and crunched
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like crushed this walkway behind it and damaged the fog house a little bit so the building the
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pier floats is they extended it out and you're saying these buildings moved out but it could
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have detached from the pier and like damaged the walkway or something i don't know why would they
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have a pier why would it float i thought here's a definition of a pier like a structural pier
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is that it's a column that goes down to bedrock so i always thought like a water pier is defined
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as a pier because it has legs that go down to the bottom of them so piers are fixed piling
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supported structures oh piling is what i'm thinking of didn't float the component the vertical
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components yes so the pier is on piles so they move these buildings okay sorry i got i got hooked
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on that yeah so yeah so you'd have to be moved them several times yeah and then there was some
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damage from a big storm but both survived they just had to do a lot of maintenance and
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reconstructing after that 1892 we're going back to the bluff lighthouse the 1855 bluff lighthouse
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gained a second rotating bullseye which changed the flash pattern to every 60 seconds instead of
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90 seconds so they probably slowed the rotation a little bit yeah slowed their roll and added
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another bullseye lens and so if you could maybe you don't know this so at that point you have
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on the bluff every 60 seconds white flash what was this light signature on the end of the pier
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fixed white okay so you'd want to go to the fixed white yeah and the double flash is you know where
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the earth was yeah where you would find land in 1894 an elevated conduit was added so the light on
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the pier could be controlled from the bluff lighthouse so you wouldn't have to walk all
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the way out here to turn on the light yeah which 1894 electronic yeah okay i mean okay i have to
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review my history of i know i always think that sounds really early technology okay no no it's
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believable 18 1876 was when they invented a generator so you could produce a steady current
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of electricity okay so 20 years later yeah checks out yeah it isn't until i'm speaking
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on the on the podcast that i sometimes question the things that i've written down
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i'm like that's what they said 20 years ago we had the motorola laser now we've got iphone 15
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with titanium is this an ad i wish in 1904 so this there was some information in between this 19
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sorry 1894 and 1904 that i skipped over because it was very confusing didn't seem
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quite correct so in 1904 a 52 foot cast iron cylindrical tower was built on a concrete foundation
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on the outer edge of the pier which then took the fresnel lens from the bluff lighthouse
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rendering it discontinued so we ditch the bluff lighthouse for a cylindrical tower so now we have
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two lights on the pier and none on land why because they wanted to do range lights which we talked
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about one of our previous episodes so these lighthouses when they when the lights line up
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on top of one another then you're you know you're heading in the correct direction to enter the pier
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or enter the harbor cool yeah in 1910 the tower portion of the bluff lighthouse was demolished
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and replaced with more housing which served as the keeper's house for these two lighthouses until
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the coast guard took over and it was sold in an auction in the 50s and i read it is now apartments
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it's like apartment cool yeah is the pier still there yes that's the lighthouses that still exist
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today awesome are these two lighthouses but sorry go ahead is the pier in service like is
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the detroit ferry still going oh i don't know i would think so probably there's still a ferry
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line on google maps heading into this harbor so i don't know if it's still the same one but
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in 1906 the new cylindrical tower was moved from the pier head to the inner light position
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and the foghorn building was moved to the pier head position so they just swapped places short
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ones in front of the tall one so now the short ones in front of the tall one which makes a lot
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more sense and this was only this was only a couple years after they built the cylindrical
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ones so they're probably like oh can you imagine getting the paperwork like you didn't think of
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this like how can we possibly have a range light one of them's hidden behind the other one doing
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the same job five years later oh my gosh yeah the range light is like if the short light disappears
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but you still see the tall one yeah you might be in line it's pretty much pretty it's pretty good
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you might be lined up you're mostly at least going in the right direction cool look at that
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horn this was so when they moved the when they swapped the two towers they added a lantern room
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and a gallery to the lake facing end of the foghorn building so that smaller one is gone
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the smaller one that's in front and they turned the foghorn building into its own lighthouse
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making this an integral lighthouse i have never seen this type of layout before yeah isn't that
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fun an integral lighthouse with the foghorn which looks like an awesome trumpet yeah like a war
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horn and uh on a pier this is extremely unique it's pretty neat cool war one was about to kick
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off oh really i think so i didn't have any history on if anything happened to these i mean they're
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on the great lake so it's you won't have to turn them off for right facing out to sea or anything
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yeah i wonder how war affects inland lighthouses i think probably the same way after some status
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changes yeah some deathcon yeah i mean the civil war is different the civil war probably affected
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all of them true because it was all inland and coastal but this is very north so i doubt there's
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really anything going on so this so this foghorn lighthouse that's now like our integral lighthouse
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became the grand haven south pierhead outer light and was given a sixth order for now lens
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fixed red very cool and the grand haven south pierhead inner light which is our tall cylindrical
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tower kept its fourth order lens with one white flash every 60 seconds so like i said these worked
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as range lights so if they were lined up then you were entering the harbor correctly and you'd want
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to go towards well the red one to start and then you'd line them up to make sure you're and there's
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some crazy curve to this pier um all i think i think it might be the next picture but uh there's
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this curve to the pier which shows how they had to maneuver things so that when you looked at the
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lights on top of each other it was the correct it wasn't like you can just put them anywhere and so
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interesting oh this is a picture there's a north pier which has a little light on it i don't mention
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it since the south was already so confusing i didn't look deep into they didn't really mention
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it because this little lighthouse on the end of the north pier isn't a part of this collection
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going on yeah i didn't mention it but this is a good picture of showing the north and south
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piers you can see all three lighthouses and you can see some people standing on it that's awesome
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it is public so you can walk up and down these piers that is a big ship as well yeah there's a
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couple of pictures actually a lot of photos of big ships and like barges and stuff right next to that
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lighthouse at the end so i mean it's over a thousand feet out into the water so cool in 1917
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the inner lighthouse so our tower our tower changed from white to red and the outer light
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changed from red to white so they're really keeping these yes captains on their toes i know so then
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they painted the buildings to match their lights so the outer one was white and the inner one was
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red cool and nowadays they're both red and both the lights are red so at some point i couldn't
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find exactly when the outer light changed to a red lantern and they also paint they painted it red
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and they're really bright too we're going crazy with red lighthouses lately if you look at our
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instagram it's just like red red red marquette the youtube cover on marquette i really like that one
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yeah yeah i'm just helping you out so that your youtube covers are nice that's what we're all
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about so nowadays uh the inner light is an occulting red for four seconds so you have a
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dark flash basically yeah in a red light every four seconds and the outer is a flash of red
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every 10 seconds it's pretty cool also this is unrelated but the us lhs has updated their website
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yeah i don't know how recent it was but i i opened it and when it was immediately like whoa it's
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updated and it's much easier to navigate now because originally i had a really hard time
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every single time no matter how many times i did it i had a hard time finding um research material
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like they have their research material in a specific spot it's like the archives or the light lists or
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something you know and it was very difficult to navigate through the website to get to those
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because it's not like it wasn't just like a drop down where you click lightless or click research
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there was nothing like that so you had to do some serious digging into the website but now they have
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a drop down menu where you can just click on lightless just they just made research so much easier
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nice that's good yeah so i don't really know when that happened but something i noticed and they have
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a if you go to the lightless they have a simulation of each lighthouse flash pattern now so you can
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if you don't know what a colting red four seconds is then you can click on it and it'll show you
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exactly what it looks like us lhs is getting fancy i know look at them it's so much fun i really
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enjoyed looking through their new websites nice everyone should go check it out us lhs.org
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us lhs.org well cool all right 1922 a reinforced concrete structure was added underneath the
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outer light and it was shaped like the bow of a ship so it took the heat off the waves that would
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like hit the outer light from the front very very neat cool i have a picture i've never seen that
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on a on a pier look at it wow isn't that cool that's not what i was picturing i was picturing
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like in the water oh yeah that's what i thought originally too but there's there's something must
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get pummeled it yeah anytime i mean if you look at it the water level when it's calm is just one
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feet below the pier so any sort of wave action is going to be hitting these lighthouses and
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i don't know when this when this photo was taken but the that concrete blocking has been beat
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yeah like a rag i know like and even the top part of this concrete structure is like crumbling the
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top part it's been impacted isn't that crazy wonder if it's some ice remember we talked about um
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was it standard rock yeah standard rock and the ice impacting the tower and the structure on that
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like it would form sheets and then these sheets would get pushed against the lighthouse and that's
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what like broke through the side of the lighthouse one year so sketchy that crazy so yeah it's for
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storm waves and also for like you said for ice sheets coming in and trying to beat up the
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lighthouse so so this new structure kind of breaks any force coming towards our cylindrical tower
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so it kind of dissipates that energy that otherwise probably would have also damaged the
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cylindrical so our outer light here has gotten a shield and got little porthole windows and yeah
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it's so cool i want to go inside so bad it's such a neat little lighthouse on the end there very
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special being awesome airbnb that's what i'm saying at the same time that they added this
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concrete structure they also replaced the wooden cat walk with a cast iron one so the one you've
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seen this picture is also cast okay wow the um so this is the north pier we're looking at in the
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south pier oh so south pier north pier is further from us so it looks like they make a channel that
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goes into town that makes sense into the haven and originally when they they said that they wanted
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to have these lighthouses it was some some guy who suggested they do a lighthouse probably part of
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the lighthouse board but he said the only change you would need to make like like everything's set
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up perfectly but the only change you'd need is to straighten the harbor so they had to like chip away
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at the edges to make sure that it was a straight entry into the harbor so you can see how perfectly
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straight it is when you curve in so it's small small boats like we got a pontoon probably a
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speedboat out there they have really big ships coming in here i like the red but the same time
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they did this new catwalk they also covered the foghorn building in metal sheets and i don't really
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see it in this picture maybe they did it so well that it looks that's metal that's metal yeah how
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do you know um i by the way it is okay we should just move on it's no it's like uh it's like a barn
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building like a cleary barn like like tilt up or pull barns don't have metal all over new barns do
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oh really like cleary is a company they come and they build your barn it's prefabricated metal
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sheets you and your your companies i can't help it i think of kleenex as tissues you know type
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of thing but like um that's hilarious uh like modern barns like a like a shop it's like a metal
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shop okay like it's like what you would see like a garage or an outbuilding at a new farm okay those
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are technically barns they don't really build barns anymore out of wood because it's not cost
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effective um it'd be a lot of maintaining which is unfortunate the wood ones are awesome yeah
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it's that's another subject so i to me this looks like a metal roof and matching metal um siding
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siding yeah yeah and and they put the they didn't redo it they just put the metal on top of the wood
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so it's just cladding yeah yeah so that all all of that happened in 1922 wow yeah that was a long
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time ago i'm sure they've done some maintenance since then but i think that concrete that concrete's
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from 1922 i bet you it's been redone they i don't know maybe not uh there has to be ongoing
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maintenance but concrete's pretty difficult they are raising money right now to do some restoration
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efforts so i'm sure that includes this concrete structure well and cast iron too i don't really
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know what else you would use but for that walkway to me iron is pretty corrosive yeah especially i
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mean it's not it's not technically salt water it's fresh water but still the water exposure it's a
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lot of metal they had to put down there probably like what's the cheapest we can do i bet you it
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has some thick paint on it yeah yeah but in 1988 they also added lights along the catwalk oh pretty
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really nice photo of that and you can see both of the red lantern rooms going on that's very cool
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yeah and now we are all the way to 2012 the coast guard handed over the two lighthouses under the
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national historic lighthouse preservation act of 2000 to the city of grand haven so the grand haven
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lighthouse conservancy i think is how you pronounce it uh which is a community group was formed to care
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for the lights and they are actively raising money to restore these lighthouses love it so here's a
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picture of wow some when it's stormy that's the condition of the pier that they have to so this
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walk this all elevated walkway you can walk out when it's storming and not i mean you get wet but
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you wouldn't get washed out honestly it's pretty dangerous yeah i just looking at look at the water
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breaking on that concrete i know you can you can see it being split in half it's so cool it's so
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awesome the last picture with the lights i was going to say that's our cover photo yeah i was
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like this one's pretty cool too yeah this is a great photo so the inner tower there do you know
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is that clad with metal as well probably yeah it's made of cast iron so oh wow yeah it doesn't have
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any other dirty boy sturdy boy i think the outer foghorn building is that what it's still called
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what you would call it yeah um houses boilers to create steam or i guess compressors probably
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today compressed air but that's probably why they have the building there i saw in the
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one of the really old photos there was two when they had two horns on top yeah they also had um
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two stacks it's like a full yeah for the boilers at the time yeah i think it's interesting you have
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utility just from an engineering perspective it's there at the horns at the outer light rather than
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because that's the whole building they have to maintain yeah rather than have you know them on
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land where right and now those chimneys are no longer useful so they just don't have them
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yeah just over time they probably have louvers for airflow that's it cool really cool it's a
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picture of kind of what winter looks like they had an article about winter on the gray and heaven
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lighthouses and yeah this is some precarious walking conditions and there's this guy all the
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way i don't want to ruin this for people but that looks a little like a risk to public safety i guess
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i'm a pansy definitely i mean you have to trust your boots you can't control people but i think
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i have another cool picture really pretty look at the front oh my gosh oh you can see that um
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harbor is doing its job that is really cool water flow like keeping calm water but that just makes
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ice pile up pretty easy i've never spent any time up there that looks cold as hell i know i can't
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imagine it i love that people are still like tons of people still out on this pier yeah even though
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you know the conditions are so cold i'm surprised the uh and maybe it is but i'm surprised that
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outer light is not heated for that purpose yeah so it doesn't for defrosting yeah cool that's the
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grand haven lighthouses so grand haven um as you said it's on the east coast of lake michigan
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yes so across from there is is it west coast is chicago is that right i should know these things
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we are a lighthouse podcast by the way uh no chicago is still on the east side wait no way no no
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you're right chicago's west coast of lake michigan yeah so across roughly across north south oh we've
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got south haven there's also a this also happened there's a south haven pier head lighthouse a south
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haven south pier head lighthouse i'm like bro so there's a grand haven south pier head lights and
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south haven south i'm like so so what happened is the us lhs confused these lighthouses in a
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couple of their photos no way they put south haven south pier head lights in the grand haven
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section so that's part partially why i got so confused i'm like what the heck is this lighthouse
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that's so funny south haven south haven oh yeah it's a fair size city grand haven oh it's grand
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rapids is right there that's a big city so and then here we go chicago down here yeah milwaukee's
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huge grand rapids is big chicago's enormous of course yeah and then green bay is up here this
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is where they got their stone for the first lighthouse i don't know anything about green bay
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i don't either so they is there uh up by mackincaugh or mackinaw is there a crossover there i bet so
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there's no way they wouldn't have made oh yeah that's a big bridge cool i bet you this island
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is really blocking lighthouse in there i bet so yep old mackinac point lighthouse there's mcgulpin
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point as well gulpin mcgulpin i'm mcgulpin me at mcdonald's oh old mackinac looks awesome four and
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a half stars 4.7 let's give it some credit here sorry mcgulpin's cute hanging up 4.7 as well let's
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go i'm going to be covering these next looks like churches they do cool anyway we'll learn more
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about it yeah but uh yeah good job thank you that was a cool one yeah and um we follow an artist on
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instagram who draws lighthouses digitally draws lighthouses very simple artwork um which artist
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is this i can't remember let me see you show me some of their work but yeah i think they only they
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may only do michigan lighthouses so let me see if i can find them it's at mitten state lights on
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instagram m i t t e n it's a michigan-based artist doing a lighthouse illustration project but
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they drew the grand haven state park you know lighthouses oh that's cool yeah it's a simple
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representation it's like um they also did i mean this is an insult i mean it as a good thing it's
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like postcard art yes yeah i think yeah that's definitely they got marquette harbor that's cool
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too yeah very cute everyone go check them out those would be fun fun prints yeah or backgrounds
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i really like those yeah grand haven lighthouses very cool look up pictures of them because they're
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very picturesque very pretty lots of people seem to hang out around them too yep i want to say thanks
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to our like uh i would like to say thank you to our new followers on linkedin yeah we're trying
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to build our linkedin presence so we can reach out for professional development and kind of be
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in the circle here the lighthouse people yeah um so we've got a lot of people adding us lately on
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