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Hi everyone, I'm Emily.
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And I'm Vince.
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And this is the lighthouse low down.
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He's very midwest of you.
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Yeah, he sprinkled in a little bit of an unknown accent in there.
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Could be anywhere.
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So today, Vince and I are moving this month and it's taking up a large majority of our time.
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So we're going to make this a mini episode.
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So there's no history buoy.
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And hopefully it'll just be like a little info nugget for our listeners.
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A little short-a-soad.
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Yeah, short-a-soad.
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Nice one.
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Very clever.
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So I decided to choose a mini lighthouse for a mini episode.
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A mini. It's a mini.
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How mini?
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Allegedly the smallest light, smallest working light tower in the world.
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Oh, cool.
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But I know of towers that are lit and are shorter.
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So there's got to be some very specific rule to the word working and light tower and not lighthouse.
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It's got like some clockwork that's still going or something.
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It's... I don't know what the answer is, but there's some sort of stipulation where they use that wording very specifically in order to claim that title.
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Someone knows the answer somewhere.
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Yeah.
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We're going international for this lighthouse.
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We're heading to North Queens Ferry, Scotland, which is very close to the capital of Scotland, Edinburgh.
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Is this the first Scottish lighthouse we've done?
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No.
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Hang on.
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You might have done one a long time ago.
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I pull up a map.
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I think it's our map.
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Yeah, we got our little dots on there.
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So we did... it's funny.
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You can kind of see the ones we've already covered.
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Little Ross.
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Is that Scotland?
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Okay.
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No, it's south of Scotland.
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The border.
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Oh, we got Flannan Eye.
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Oh, yeah.
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I think that's Scotland.
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So we're going to zoom in here to Edinburgh.
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My dad studied abroad there.
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For medical?
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Before that, I think.
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Here's Queens Ferry.
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We're zooming in.
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Fourth Bridge, North Queens Ferry, and our light.
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Deep Sea.
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Sea World.
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It's right here.
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So as you can see, we're very close to Edinburgh.
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So you can imagine this little...
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it's a little channel of water called the Firth of Forth.
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The what?
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The Firth of Forth.
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Apparently Firth...
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You say that like, oh, come on, Vince.
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You know, the Firth of Forth.
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I just repeat it.
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The fifth, the fifth.
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The fifth of the fifth.
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Apparently Firth is a type of water channel or something.
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Like fjord, but for water, if I remember correctly.
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So the Firth of Forth is just the name of this channel.
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Oh, of the Forth area.
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Forth Bridge.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So Queens Ferry is split up in the north and south on either side of this channel.
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So north is the one that we're looking at today is North Queens Ferry Harbor Light.
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Nice.
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And there's a south Queens Ferry Harbor Light there.
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Kind of twins, but not really.
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What's that little thing?
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Is it a land bridge?
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A footbridge?
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I will talk about it.
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Okay.
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So the Firth of Forth was high traffic area, obviously, because you're getting from one
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side to the other of this channel.
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And there's a lot of people going into Edinburgh.
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So there's a lot of people passing through this area.
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And back in the day, meaning like the 1700s, there were no bridges and you had to boat
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across, but the traffic was not regulated.
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So obviously it was like a death trap of boats.
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Just to get across.
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Although I'm sure like, I don't know anything about how many shipwrecks, but it was bad
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enough to where the government decided to step in.
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And May of 1809, they passed an Act of Parliament calling for major improvements to the Queens
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Ferry Passage, which is what this little area is called.
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So the Act created a public private partnership where the government and the trustees of Queens
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Ferry Passage, which is like a nonprofit organization or something.
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I didn't dig too deep into it because this is a mini-soap.
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Short-a-soap.
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What did you call it?
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Short-a-soap.
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That's right.
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But they would split a 16 and a half thousand pound bill for changes to the passage, which
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at that time was like a little bit over $2 million, I think.
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So it's hefty.
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So the changes included regulating traffic.
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So they limited the number of boats that could be crossing at any time.
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You could only sail when you were signaled.
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There were no liquor sales anymore.
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I don't know the specifications of...
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On boats specifically?
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Yeah.
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I don't know if it was like you couldn't bring liquor from one side to the other or you couldn't
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sell it at the port or something.
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Although that would be important.
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You wouldn't want drunkards sailing across in all the traffic, like driving drunk, but
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for a boat.
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Yeah.
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Not allowed.
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And the operation of the ferry was now to be run by a management committee, an engineer,
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a surveyor, treasurer, collector, receiver, a clerk, and two resident superintendents.
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Yeah, corporate.
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And they really beefed up the amount of supervision they had going on.
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Hold on.
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You said there was a public-private committee?
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Yeah.
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So it was the government combined with this nonprofit to pay and decide what kind of changes
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they needed to make.
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So it was basically just like a partnership.
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We've heard of a similar...
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I'm sure it's not the same people, but a similar group recently in some episode.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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It was one of mine, I think, and I remember not really understanding...
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Was it Atlantic City?
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Public-private.
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Maybe.
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It might've been Atlantic City.
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Okay.
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And then some other changes is that at South Queens Ferry, there would be new piers at
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Long Craig and Port Edgar and improvements to the existing Hawes Pier, I think it's called.
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And a new road would link these piers and storage sheds, stables, and housing for boatmen
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would be constructed.
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Nice.
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Filling it up.
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At North Queens Ferry, the existing East Battery Pier was to be improved with new piers
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at West Battery, which was now called Town Pier and Long Craig Island.
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There were to be houses for boatmen, a house for superintendents, an inn, and a building
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to house offices and a waiting room.
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And this building was called Mount Hooley, which is where our lighthouse begins.
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There's so much development as part of this.
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Yeah, I know.
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They really...
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I don't know how long...
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I think it was just a couple of years they did all of this.
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Kind of crazy.
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Lots of new piers.
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So Robert Stevenson, you know, the Stevenson family, we talked about him briefly for Little
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Ross because they built a lot of lighthouses around the UK and also like some in Japan
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and some in...
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They're scattered all over.
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I really need to do an episode that's all about the Stevenson family because they had
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generations of lighthouse engineers.
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So Robert Stevenson was approached by the trustees in 1812 to put a light at North Queens
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Ferry.
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He suggested a lantern room be placed on the existing Mount Hooley staircase.
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So I have a picture of what that may have looked like.
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It's like a rendering of what it might have looked like at that time.
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This is Mount Hooley, this building, this orange building.
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And then this little copper domed lantern room.
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This is a rendering?
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Yeah.
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I couldn't find...
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This looks real as hell.
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I couldn't find Mount Hooley at all.
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And so I'm sure it's still there, but I couldn't find it on the map.
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But I saw an article and they just like put our little light tower on top of there to
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show what it looked like.
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Shocking.
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Yeah.
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Shocking.
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Thick news.
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I'm pretty sure now it's right over here in front of this little white building.
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Yes.
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In the past, it was a lot taller than it is now.
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But in 1817, it was determined that this was not the optimum location for the light.
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So it was moved slightly and placed on top of a tiny tower built just across the street,
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which faced directly down the new town pier.
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So instead of being slightly off center, obviously you want boats to be approaching the pier
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exactly.
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But yeah, so they moved it down from what would seem like a more advantageous spot up
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high and instead put it very close to the ground facing downtown's pier.
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But it lined up.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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It's a beautiful area.
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Stonework and everything.
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So here's a really old map photo.
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And so you can see the light was placed over here and it faces perfectly down this town's
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pier.
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And you can see where they added West Battery Pier and East Battery Pier.
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We talked about those and got Coast Guard stations, watch houses, all kinds of fun stuff.
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Busy.
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They also mentioned, like I said earlier, there was a twin tower to this one at South
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Queens Ferry.
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Yeah.
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And it was on Hawes Pier, which was built at the same time.
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The South one was taken out of service in 1877, but it's still there.
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I didn't put in a picture of our slideshow, but you can look it up.
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It is not lit.
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Yeah.
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It's boarded up.
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But the actual tower itself is still there.
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And it has some like cool-
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It's a renovation.
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Figures on it, like gargoyle type things.
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So a lot fancier than we got for the North Tower.
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Oh, and it's boarded up.
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Some favoritism going on.
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North Queens Ferry light, when it was moved, it became 16 feet tall and four feet wide
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with a little copper dome.
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Copper dome.
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Nice.
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What are those numbers under the word light?
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Maybe navigational coordinates or something.
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Okay.
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I have no idea.
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If you know out there, let us know.
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Yeah.
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Anyone who's watching on YouTube and can see this picture, let us know.
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Oh, no way.
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I forgot about how awesome this is going to be.
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Yeah, you can see the bridge in the background, which is, I'll cover briefly, but that's fourth
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bridge.
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And it's actually a railroad.
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It was a rail bridge and not a road bridge.
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It's a cool bridge.
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Hey, we have some flags.
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We have signal flags.
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I see that.
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Do you know what they're saying?
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I wish I had it pulled up.
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I could see what we got going on.
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I want to say the blue and yellow is V, but that's my only guess.
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I can't corroborate your story.
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So there are three bridges that now cross this passage, one of them being the famous
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fourth bridge, which I talked about, built what?
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There's three bridges.
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This one's the fourth.
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The first one built in 1890.
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It's right next to the tower and is a mile and a half long, locally known as our grand
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old lady.
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Well, yeah, I feel like that's a long bridge.
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I have a picture here of it when it was being built.
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So that's pretty cool.
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I don't have the details of how long it took or anything, but it was a railway and fourth
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road bridge was constructed in 1964.
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So now there's one that you can drive across and the construction of that bridge is what
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ended ferries going across the fourth.
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So now you drive or train or train.
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You train train train.
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This image for those of you who aren't watching and just listening, it's like a sepia, black
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and white.
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It almost looks like a sketch, but I know it's a photograph.
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Yeah.
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Incredible structures they built.
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These I'm going to call them piers, these three piers, which are of course part of the
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final construction.
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And they're super tall.
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Of course it's a bridge, but they're also the final construction of the bridge goes
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up and down for like the arches, the structural supports.
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It's really neat.
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You could see on the side, these big X patterns.
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They're still, yeah, that's awesome.
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I can't believe it's still there.
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Yeah.
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From the age of that photo.
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Yeah.
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1890.
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Still operating.
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Well, they know how to build bridges.
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Yeah.
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They got it right.
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But when the road one was constructed in the sixties, it extinguished our North Queens
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ferry Harbor light.
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Some sources say that it was extinguished in 1890 when the railroad bridge was constructed
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by I think it said both.
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So I think it's referring to the road one and not the...
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I feel like you could use the rail bridge as a navigator.
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Yeah, that's true.
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If you're on a boat, but I don't know if it had lights on it or how often bridges were
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on it, how often trains were on it.
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Yeah.
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Maybe they didn't even have lights on it at that time.
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Maybe it like lost a lot of its use, the lighthouse with the rail, but certainly with the ferry
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not running anymore.
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So the tower was renovated and reopened in 2010 and you can now climb the 24 steps to
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the light and it still has its Argon lamp, which it stuck with throughout its entire
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existence.
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Go back and listen to our second episode, history of lighthouses.
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I need more of that.
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I forgot about that.
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And the original is still in the tower to view if you climb and you can light the Argon
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lamp and receive a certificate of competence as an honorary keeper of the light.
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No way.
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So you become, it's like official.
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I've never heard of that.
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Yeah.
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How neat is that?
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What are you saying?
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Argon?
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Argon.
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Can you remind me from our episode two?
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No.
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I'll have to go.
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I'll have to go listen to episode two to know what we said.
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That was my first episode.
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That was 50 episodes ago.
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So I need to brush up on my lamps.
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Wasn't that my first episode?
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Yes, it was.
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You're welcome everyone.
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We did the call in separate rooms because we would have echo with our current or with
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our old equipment.
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I was staring at a wall listening to you over the phone using headphones from work.
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Yeah, we did our best.
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We've really, we've really grown up.
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Here we are.
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Riprap.
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What is this?
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Version three?
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Yeah.
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The studio.
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We're about to retire it.
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About to have version four.
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Riprap V4.
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I have a picky.
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This is the guy that takes care of the lighthouse right now.
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His name is Gary Irvine.
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I believe it's pronounced or Irvin.
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Gary.
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I love that jacket.
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A lot of the pictures that I've shown are actually his and I'll credit him on those.
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So you guys can check out his photography.
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He does photography and he takes care of this lighthouse.
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He's also a heritage trust secretary.
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So I didn't look too deep into that group, but I don't know what that means.
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You can see that vent stack though.
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We're talking about the Arden lamp.
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He's polishing the reflector right now.
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The back of the reflector.
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Awesome.
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It was originally fueled by whale oil, changed to paraffin, then gas and now is run off vegetable
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oil.
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How progressive.
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I think at one point it said something about electricity, but right now it says vegetable
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oil.
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Maybe because it's not needed as a source.
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They went to electricity and now they're back to.
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Yeah.
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And I think they only light it upon request or something.
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So it's not like it's being lit every day.
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Really cool.
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That'd be so much fun.
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And if you pull this up on Google Maps, it shows us fourth bridges lighthouse museum,
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which I believe is not the tower itself, but a building that's just adjacent to it.
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It has the history of the bridge, history of town pier and also this light tower.
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So you can just go, it's like this tiny, it's a mini museum for a mini lighthouse.
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Awesome.
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But that's our cute, um, apparently maybe self-proclaimed smallest working light tower
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in the world.
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That's quick.
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Do we, do we, um,
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mini so short.
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So do you, do we know more about this gentleman?
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Can we learn more maybe as a future history boo?
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Or, uh, yeah, maybe see if he, uh, there wasn't a lot about him out there.
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He didn't, um, an article.
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Well, he did an interview with some Scotland magazine or something that talked a little
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bit about things that I talked about.
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So I'll be crediting that in my references so people can take a look.
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Awesome.
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His clothing choices are highly fashionable.
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Yeah.
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It looks like a tropical shirt under a sweater, a sweater under a keeper's jacket.
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I would say.
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It looks like corduroy.
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Yeah.
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And then some bright blue pants.
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We're living for it.
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This is awesome.
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All right.
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But that's it.
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Yeah.
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That's, um, North Queens, fairy Harbor light.
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Well, thank you.
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You're welcome.
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I'll be covering another short episode next time.
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I'm almost done with it, another international one because I cannot help myself, but in my
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defense we've been doing tons of us lighthouses.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I'm going to give some international focus and then we'll double back.
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Choked.
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Sorry.
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Vince is just, oh, we better wrap it up.
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After that short, then it'll be my turn.
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No, that's three in a row.
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Is it?
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Okay.
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Well, good.
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I can't talk anymore.
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Thank you all for joining.
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Catch you next time on the lighthouse.
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Just died on my coffee.
