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Hi everyone, I'm Emily.
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And I'm Vince.
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And this is the Lighthouse Lowdown.
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Welcome to the Lighthouse Lowdown.
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Thank you.
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We're in a new place, a new space I should say once again.
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Yeah, riprap version four or five.
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This is going to be our permanent spot but we need to figure out some.
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Wait for a while.
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Let's go.
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Need to figure out some deets.
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Yep.
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But I'll jump right into it today.
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I think it might be a little bit of a long one.
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Oh nice.
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I'm going to start off by saying that Wednesday, this coming Wednesday the seventh is National
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Lighthouse Day.
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So if you live near a lighthouse, it's more than likely that they're going to have some
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kind of special event or you know, a party.
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In the United States, National Lighthouse Day?
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Very cool.
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Our international listeners will have to dance along.
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Speaking of dance, what's the news there?
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I don't know.
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We probably talked about it last year.
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But the USLHS is doing a dance competition where as long as you have like a lighthouse
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or a lightship or something in the background, you do a dance to a specific song and submit
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it and then winners get cash prizes.
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Oh, I'm definitely going to submit.
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Well, we are going to because the submission deadline is I think August 25th and we're
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going to be near lighthouses by August 21st.
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Heck yeah, Cape Cod.
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So it'll be a very fast edit, very fast filming and everything else.
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We'll do a little short episode.
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But I would like to participate.
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And instead the submission can be as short or as long as you want it to be.
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So like 15 hours of us dancing.
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Maybe not on loop like that.
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No, not on loop continuously.
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Oh, well, you'd be kind of tired from all the travel cocktails help for questions about
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it.
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You can directly email Jeremy at USLHS dot org.
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All right, do it very good.
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Now on to our history of buoy.
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I'm going to talk about lighthouse coatings.
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I think coat, coat, coat.
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Yeah, like a jacket, like a jacket, a lighthouse jacket.
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So obviously the coating depends on the material of the lighthouse and its location.
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And what works for one lighthouse isn't going to work for all lighthouses.
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And there's a couple of lighthouses we've covered that have special coatings.
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Like Ochre Coke, like Ochre Coke, that big stubby little reminder.
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We talked about that in our Outer Banks episode and it had a coating made of lime, salt, rice,
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whiting and clear glue, which was mixed with boiling water before being put onto the lighthouse.
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Did you say rice?
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Yes, ground rice.
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Awesome.
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Did not see that coming.
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I know.
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It was just the strangest concoction.
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So we don't have a lot of like that today, but that was what they used to protect Ochre
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Coke, a very high humidity environment onto a brick lighthouse.
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So honestly, it was permeable and need some help, which that even didn't protect the lighthouse.
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Like the brick is needs some help these days.
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So yeah, but it's been a while, a long time.
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Yeah, Masonry often had a sacrificial layer of stucco, is it?
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Stucco or lime mortar wash that would erode over time instead of the stone.
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Yeah, that is kind of what I'm thinking.
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Ochre Coke might have been like too, is just that it was sealed and kind of took the beating
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instead of the lighthouse.
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And then they because they reapplied it like every year, maybe like twice a year or something.
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Yeah, I didn't know that.
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Yeah, it was like one of the keepers jobs was reapplying that.
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It was I wonder if it's added up over time, you know, to because its shape is kind of
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rounded almost.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, not even but all like I remember touching it and looking up as some photos I took from
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the very base of it, just kind of looking up as close as you can to it right by the
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door.
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And I was like, how is that applied?
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It looks like it was applied by hand.
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Well, guess what it was.
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And I kind of feel stupid.
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Of course it was.
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What are they going to put that thing in a spray booth?
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Roll it in.
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We actually talk about that today, too.
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No way.
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No, I'm actually surprised.
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Well, actually, talk a little.
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I'm not quite done with my history, but we'll talk a couple talk about a couple of these
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points today.
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So obviously, since Ochre Coke, things have evolved a lot and lighthouses need protection
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now more than ever because they're in serious danger of like falling apart unless there's
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somebody taking care of them.
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So it's better to have a strong protective coating than to constantly having to do maintenance,
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which has to be done anyway.
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That makes sense.
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They got enough work to do out there.
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Yeah.
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So commonly these days we see acrylic polyurethane on metal, stone, and brick lighthouses plus
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all of like bolts and railings and things.
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And this substance often resembles a cross between plastic and rubber.
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So it's flexible, but also really strong.
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Trinity House, which is a UK maritime charity, we've talked about it a lot.
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It oversees the lighthouses.
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Did an FAQ on the subject and they said they have two systems depending on the lighthouse
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material and location.
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So aside from the polyurethane mentioned, they also use mono-lastex smooth on render,
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which render is just a mixture of sand and cement.
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This mono-lastex smooth is a water-based waterproof substance that also resists mold fungus and
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also has really good vapor permeability.
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So it's great on like brick, but also on concrete.
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And it also comes in a lot of colors.
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So it's like a coating, but also a paint.
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That's really interesting.
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Yeah.
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So you mentioned, don't let me take you too far off track.
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Oh no.
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Render being a mix of cement and sand.
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So I'm going to oversimplify it.
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But I think, I mean, there's different classifications of sand and aggregate and whatnot.
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But, so cement is the slurry and concrete is a mixture of cement and aggregate.
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So if you were to take cement and sand and mix it together, you'd have concrete more
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or less.
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The reason I bring that up is I saw a video, it's like two or three minutes recently, of
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a woman, another podcast.
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I can't tell you which one, because I don't remember.
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She was talking about how we're running out of sand, like as a natural resource.
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Apparently there's only so much sand that's perfect for construction.
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Like there's certain sand grades you need for making glass, certain sand grades you
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need for making concrete.
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The cost of like refining sand makes it not worth it if you can't just go get it from
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somewhere and then transporting it's super expensive too, because it's heavy.
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So anyways, apparently they like the Burj Dubai, that really tall building.
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Apparently they imported sand, even though it's in the desert, because the desert sand
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is not fit to make concrete.
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I never thought about that.
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So all sand is not created equal.
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I wonder what my coffee brain said was, I wonder if render is another like English,
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British English word for concrete or if they're very different.
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I'm not sure.
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They're different.
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I just looked it up.
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It's actually mostly a protective coating.
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So that monolastic, I'm away from here so I can't record it.
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Monolastic smooth goes on top of render and render is a protective coating usually used
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on masonry, but it's a mixture of sand, water, cement and lime.
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Has a fire rating and waterproof qualities and also holds aesthetic appeal.
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Well, render me educated.
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Good one.
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Right, and then Trinity House also said for offshore lighthouses that take more of a beating,
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they use a liquid plastics product, but they don't specify what that is.
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Like an epoxy, I bet.
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Yeah, probably.
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Nasty stuff.
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Been a lot more tough.
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For paint that needs to remain really bright, this is fun.
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Teneimic is a brand that's been used for several lighthouses that have red roofs, such as St.
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Augustine and South Pier Lighthouse.
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It has a high solids, fluoropolymer, think Teflon.
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That's exciting.
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No, I am excited.
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Teneimic is an awesome brand.
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So they worked with me at my first job and then now my current job.
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And they make paints, not all of their paints, but some of their paints are actually insulating.
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So you can coat a pipe with paint and it insulates it.
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It's not as good as fiberglass insulation.
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And some of their paints are really super strong, which makes sense for outdoor use
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so that you can put steel pipe outdoor and just not worry about it anymore.
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Not worry about it corroding is what I mean.
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Very cool.
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Sorry to interrupt.
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Very cool.
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But you get what I'm talking about.
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And I actually have a koozie in our kitchen from Teneimic.
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No way.
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And it's like a paint can design.
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What a weird small world.
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That little text on the back says something like, you know, contains like delicious drink
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or something silly like that.
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That's funny.
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Yeah, you nodded with Teneimic and I was like, don't nod as if you know what I'm talking
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about.
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The people can't see you nod.
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I do know what you're talking about.
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That's awesome.
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But anyway, this layer goes after the polyurethane layer, which has high color and gloss retention
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even when exposed to high UV for years.
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So like a lot of lighthouses we see the red turns into a very light pink over like not
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that much time.
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So this kind of battles that where you keep that bright day mark.
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That's so important without having to reapply all the time.
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That's awesome.
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Which is something we'll see with the lighthouse today as well.
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We're going to be talking about white shoal lighthouse, which we mentioned in episode
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43 with Mackinac.
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Mackinac.
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I looked off like Mackinac.
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Mackinac.
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Memories of Mackinac.
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Mackinac Point.
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Mackinac.
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That's right by the long bridge that's north.
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The Mackinac Bridge.
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Great Lake Superior and.
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Old Mackinac Point Lighthouse.
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I'm sorry.
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I knew that there were several words and I was like, if I try, then I won't cover it.
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I got to look it up.
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But anyway, that was episode 43 and this one is 20 miles west of the Mackinac Bridge.
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Cool.
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Out in the open.
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So we're heading back up to the Straits of Mackinac.
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This straight connected Lake Huron and Lake Michigan connects and had fairly high traffic,
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especially towards like the late 1800s.
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It also had a lot of shoals, which is just areas of shallow water.
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OK.
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So they each needed to be marked now that more people were starting to come to the street.
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So the most shallow Simmons Reef was only three feet deep and Congress approved sixty
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thousand dollars for a lighthouse to be built there in 1889.
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But a survey of the area showed that they couldn't build a lighthouse there for less
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than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
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At that time, that was like that amount today is five million dollars.
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Can you imagine looking at that and being like, oh, it's probably about five million.
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It's like the the memes, the guy from Pond Stars.
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Best I can do is five million.
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What?
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I don't know that.
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It's just like it's a have you heard of Pond Stars like the TV show?
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What?
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Yes.
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I think you're saying Pond Stars.
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No, that would be more.
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That makes sense.
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But there's just this image that goes around when they're like negotiating, like anyone
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selling their car on Facebook or whatever.
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And it shows the bald guy like slap the counter and it's best I can do is and then he says
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the price number.
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Yeah.
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So that doesn't translate very well, but maybe I'll insert it here.
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People that do know it would probably get a kick out.
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There's going to be a couple out there.
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Yeah, just a couple.
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You're welcome.
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The Lighthouse Board requested the other ninety thousand dollars, but they also asked that
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the original sixty thousand be used for light ships that would mark each of the most the
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three most shallow areas.
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Light ships.
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Yes.
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Stationary light ships get towed out there and left.
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Cool.
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Yeah.
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So Simmons Reef, Grays Reef and White Shoals were the ones that they were looking at.
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And Congress approved this in eighteen ninety one.
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So at that point, three one hundred foot wooden light ships with fog signals and steam propulsion,
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which is important because these were the first US light vessels to have self propelling
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engines.
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But they still had to be towed out there.
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So maybe it was just like, I don't know if they're self propelling.
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Why do they need help?
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They had steam engines.
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They were towed out there and they were stationary.
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Yeah.
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And what was the light on them?
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Was it electric at the time?
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Or was the boat was the ship itself just brightly colored?
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It had a lot.
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We need to do a history on light ships because I thought we had.
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I think we talked about.
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Maybe I'm thinking of a different word.
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Lighthouse tenders is what I'm thinking.
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Oh, no.
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Not lightship.
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Yeah, these are lightships.
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Although I can see how the terms would be confused.
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I can see how I got confused.
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Of course, that makes sense for smart people to think those things.
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But anyway, these were built by the Blythe Craig Shipbuilding Company of Toledo, Ohio,
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and were towed to their spots by October of that same year with LV 55, just light vessel
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55 at Simmons Reef, 56 at White Shoal and 57 at Grace, which I had to look up all of
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those individually.
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So go me.
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Good for you.
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Thank you.
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It's quality research.
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Quality research.
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So LV 56, which is the one at White Shoals was attached to a five ton sinker by 15 fathoms
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of two inch chain.
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Heck yeah.
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We talked fathoms early on.
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I saw the fathoms and I was like, oh, I got to bring this up for Vince.
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Anyway, life was not too agreeable on this vessel, allegedly, with the entire crew abandoning
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the ship against orders within three weeks.
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That's fast.
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Yeah.
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So then of course they were all fired and then a new crew was found.
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But it just shows that it was pretty rough.
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Yeah.
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Being stationed out on a light ship was not the same as being stationed on a lighthouse.
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It's a lighthouse that rocks all the time.
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Yeah.
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And not as like protective, I would think.
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Right.
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Oh yeah.
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The rocking would.
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I've seen videos of people in the Coast Guard or like in the Navy and it just shows them
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like walking sideways on like a desk.
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Yes.
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Because it's waves are so crazy.
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Yeah.
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I have I've never been on a boat like that.
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Yeah.
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I've been on a couple of rocking boats, but nothing large where, well, we're going to
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stay out in a storm.
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No.
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Yeah.
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Never.
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I can't imagine it.
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So finally in 1907.
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So this is a pretty late lighthouse.
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1907 Congress put aside $250,000, which is $8.5 million in today's money.
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It's crazy.
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For a lighthouse and fog house to be built on White Shoal since the current vessel had
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to be removed during winter months due to ice.
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And so they wanted something that was going to be there year round.
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No problem.
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So the foundation work was awarded to the lowest bidder for $93,785 plus 60 cents.
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I'm like so specific.
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Very firm price.
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With Gillen Construction Company of Milwaukee.
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May 1908 construction started.
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The rock was leveled and 400,000 square feet of timber cribbing was built onshore and then
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towed over to site.
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And then they sunk it onto the shoal that they had prepped with 4,000 tons of rock and
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3,600 cubic yards of concrete.
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There's a really great old photo showing this crib before the lighthouse was built on top.
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Because it was incredible.
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Like a two year endeavor.
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Wow.
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There's a picture.
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And it's funny because in the photo it looks short.
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But then you see the man standing on the side.
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I'm pretty sure it was 20 feet above sea level.
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The total height of just the crib.
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Yeah.
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If he's looking, I mean maybe not the average back then, but let's say six foot.
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Yeah.
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Three of him plus any of those gentlemen.
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Yeah.
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That's crazy.
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Pretty cool to see a good photo from early 1900s.
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Of the construction.
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Right.
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And they usually have pictures, especially in like National Archives and in like USLHS,
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they have pictures of the half completed lighthouse or like the lighthouse without the lantern
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room, but never of like just the foundation or something like that.
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So it's special to have a photo that actually clearly shows this crib being built.
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It's pretty cool.
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It is.
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On top of that, they had a reinforced concrete pier built 20 feet above the water line to
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support the lighthouse.
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And then by the time this was completed, winter was approaching, so they erected a skeleton
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tower with a temporary acetylene light on top.
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Keep touching this coffee and it's like super condensate.
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In the industry, we say it's sweating.
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In the industry.
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Isn't that like a normal human word for this?
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Probably.
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But also in the industry.
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In 1909, the pier was completed as was the exterior of the steel and concrete lighthouse
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aside from the lantern room.
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And this is what I was talking about earlier.
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It was coated with gunite after completion, which is just sprayed concrete.
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So like the outside, like its coating was sprayed.
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I don't know.
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I feel like that would be not the cleanest application.
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So 1909 is when we're talking.
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Yeah.
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When do they, I don't mean to jump ahead of you.
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We'll keep going.
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The light was established in September of 1910 and LV 56 was reassigned to North Manitou
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Shoals, which got its own lighthouse in 1935.
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So super late, only three years before Coast Guard took over.
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So what was it?
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1912 was or 1911 somewhere in there.
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The Titanic sank.
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Oh, right.
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Yeah.
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Why does that feel like?
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I want to say 1910 to 13, somewhere in there.
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I should know these things.
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But the reason I bring it up is just, so I've considered doing an episode on lighthouse
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construction.
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1912, good one.
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Yeah, look at me.
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But one of the reasons I haven't yet is that there's so many different eras in technologies
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and so many different ways people have built lighthouses and parts of them.
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So it's something more I was going to be able to talk about.
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But I was thinking about like, you know, this day in history, what was going on with construction
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and something.
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I took a class in college, mechanics of materials and materials.
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And one of the things we talked about was the Titanic as an example of steel production.
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So there's a ductile to brittle transition temperature, DBTT.
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And I probably said this before on the podcast.
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But at a certain degree, untreated steel, meaning steel that is not blended with other
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metals, which is alloying.
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Steel will become brittle to where if you introduce a crack, like with a iceberg, the
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steel actually sheared like a piece of paper.
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It cracked as if it were porcelain, you know, which is something that was a lesson learned
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of that time.
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But that's crazy to me that you had World War One go on shortly after that, early 1910s,
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I think.
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And then, you know, it can continue down the ramble ramble ramble all through technology
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and history.
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But right now, like these folks are building this structure, not knowing so many things
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that we know today.
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Yeah.
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And in some way, kind of doing a better job.
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Because it's all they got.
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They're doing all they got.
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But all these these men are all tradesmen.
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They're all specialists.
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You know, I'm sure it wasn't an easy life.
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But it's so interesting to me that people were so skilled.
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And they just really gambled on themselves.
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They bet on themselves like, yeah, we can build it.
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Like the low bidder won the cribbing contracts we're talking about.
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Yeah, there's like, we can make it happen.
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Have they ever even done one before?
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Yeah, true.
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Yeah, that would be a good a little add on like what's going on in construction, because
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it's like, is it revolutionary at that time?
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Or was it like something that they're well versed in?
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Yeah, interesting.
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Yeah.
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The 1912 annual report of the Commissioner of Lighthouses said, quote, I'm doing a lot
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of reading in this episode because it's it's better sometimes straight from the horse's
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mouth.
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But quote, the deck of the pier supports an ornamental cylindrical.
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Wait a minute.
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I have a photo.
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Wait a minute.
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Pop that photo.
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Here we've got the completed lighthouse.
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Oh, it's pretty.
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Yes.
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And that black band around the bottom, it was like 38 feet up, I want to say.
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It says it later in my notes.
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No way.
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But it counted as its day mark is this black band.
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That is cool.
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It's an iron.
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Well, maybe not iron.
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It looks metal.
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Is that wood or metal?
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It's concrete painted, I believe.
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Even cooler.
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I could be wrong.
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This is a very cool lighthouse.
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And I love the little ship that's next to the entry ladder.
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I think that's so cute.
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Do you want to describe it for our listeners only?
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Lighthouse?
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Only listeners, not watchers.
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Yeah.
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It's all white, has lots of windows, which they say today is really nice because there's
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no AC.
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And so air blows straight through the lighthouse and there's always like at least a breeze,
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usually high winds.
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So it's actually pretty comfortable in there when it gets hot.
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All white.
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You can see the brick pattern.
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It has a aluminum lantern room.
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So it was like very bright and reflective.
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And I think it was the only aluminum one on the Great Lakes at the very least.
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Pretty neat.
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I think 125 feet from the pier.
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So above water level, it was like 145 or something.
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It's beautiful.
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Maybe more.
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I can't remember.
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Cool day mark, kind of that low black band.
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The windows are all tall, rectangular, except for the upper level, which I don't remember
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what that's called.
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And it's got some faux.
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So I didn't get to research too far into this, but this picture shows it really well.
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These massive front doors you can see in comparison of the guy that's standing up front.
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They're metal doors.
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And it's because there was a boat inside the bottom of the lighthouse that they would take
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out to use.
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I think it was a motorboat or at least it was in like in the future from this image.
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Yeah.
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Very cool.
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Thank you.
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You're welcome.
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So I get get back to my quote.
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I was like, oh my gosh, wait, I have a photo.
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So the deck of the pier supports an ornamental cylindrical base for a conical shaped tower
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surmounted by a cylindrical service room, watch room and first order helical bar lantern
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whose focal plane is 105 feet above the deck of the pier.
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The tower is of structural steel backed with brick and faced with terracotta with certain
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cast iron parts and trimmings and with a gallery deck watch room and lantern made of aluminum.
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It goes on to describe the floors, which I'll pull up a picture for those are watching of
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a breakdown of what the floors look like.
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Out there are four keepers at the station.
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The tower is nine stories in height, including the cellar on the in the interior of the pier,
509
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840
which contains the oil tanks.
510
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,760
Above this is the first floor on level with deck of pier outside containing rooms for
511
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,880
the fog signal machinery, heating plant stores, closets and powerboat.
512
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,320
The powerboat is the thing we were talking about that needed the big doors on the second
513
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,320
floor are tool room, bathroom and kitchen store room.
514
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,880
The third floor contains kitchen, living room and bedroom, the fourth floor, two bedrooms,
515
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,680
toilet, etc.
516
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,280
The fifth floor, a bedroom and general sitting room.
517
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,140
The sixth and seventh one large room each.
518
00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:18,680
The eighth contains the service room, which is immediately below the watch room of the
519
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,840
lantern.
520
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,080
The stairs are not centrally located but are amply provided for near the outer walls of
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00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,080
the tower.
522
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,000
Supplies are landed directly on the pier from the tender and the keeper's powerboat is stowed
523
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,560
within the tower in a corridor on the first floor and the rowboat on the pier outside.
524
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,760
That was all from the annual report of the commissioner of lighthouse.
525
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,760
Very official.
526
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,760
Yeah.
527
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,740
So that mechanical room, the eighth floor, that's the one that I was pointing out has
528
00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:44,280
porthole windows in it.
529
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,280
Oh, really?
530
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Yeah.
531
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Very cool.
532
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:53,680
And then it's that's the cylindrical room, I would say above the conical area.
533
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,640
But I really hope this is still there.
534
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,640
What?
535
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,640
This lighthouse.
536
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,640
It is.
537
00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,640
It's still there.
538
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,640
Oh, let's go.
539
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,640
It's pretty cool.
540
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,040
They have a lot of awesome current history going on right now.
541
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,360
Come on, Michigan.
542
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,360
Let's go.
543
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,360
Let's go.
544
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:12,520
So they had a second order flashing lens on a mercury float, which is another history
545
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:19,760
buoy I'm going to do is I found some some data on mercury floats, like how they came
546
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,160
to be and like their downfall and all that.
547
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,680
We talked a little bit about them.
548
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,920
We did at some point.
549
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,920
Yeah.
550
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,840
And who was it that told us?
551
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,040
We were wrong
552
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,320
That was Fred Stonehouse Fred. Yes, so maybe I'm stepping on your material
553
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:42,500
But Fred mentioned a lot of the Great Lakes Lighthouses are not mercury floats. I can't remember why
554
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,760
The main reason is that
555
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,880
So this is a good example. Actually. The main reason is that Great Lakes
556
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,240
Did not often have anything more than a fourth order lens. Okay, they weren't that heavy
557
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,640
So you didn't need something like a mercury float in order to rotate the lens
558
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,240
You could just use clockwork and it wouldn't put a bunch of stress on anything wasn't heavy enough
559
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,860
But the second order lens is the largest that's ever been on the Great Lakes
560
00:26:06,860 --> 00:26:11,440
and so they needed something like a mercury float to reduce the
561
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,720
Pressure. Yeah, so it could still reduce the friction so it could still rotate. Yeah, right. Cool. I'm excited to learn more
562
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:23,200
Yeah, so this lens was lit by mineral oil that was pumped from the bottom of the station, which is like 125 feet
563
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,440
It's a lot of head. It's a lot. Yeah, and we talked a lot about how keepers had to lug
564
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,320
buckets or you know containers of oil up all the stairs
565
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,680
So it's it's nice that this lighthouse was built in a time where you could just install a pump
566
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:44,080
I'm curious how that yeah, it's 19 something. So they were around. I'm curious what style of pump and all that
567
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,920
I'm studying. I'm studying for my professional engineering license exam
568
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:54,080
And I one of the sections I read last night was the various types of pumps at least for HVAC use
569
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,240
Yes
570
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,960
So the lens was rotated by clockwork with hanging weights with run rotation every 32 seconds
571
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,520
I have a picture here. I think the photo was taken in the 90s
572
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:13,160
But this is this was the the second order lens that we had it was by valve or clam shell time
573
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,200
Pretty the largest we ever had in the Great Lakes
574
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:23,520
Lots of copper there's this neat photo of when it was being assembled or maybe taken apart of just the bullseye
575
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Which I thought was awesome because we've never seen one half taken apart super cool. No, I have not
576
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,280
I wonder if they have bolts that go in those copper sections
577
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,920
Or how that works. You know, they've got to be easily replaceable when something's damaged or scratched
578
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,840
I see in that that bullseye image on the right. It looks like holes. Yeah, maybe they're tapped for screws
579
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,940
Mm-hmm interesting. So yeah, currently it's at a shipwreck museum at Whitefish Point light station in
580
00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:57,800
Michigan somewhere. I'm thinking of Montana. Obviously that's not I don't think there's any lighthouses in Montana
581
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:04,240
But yeah Paradise Michigan's where it's located cool. It's a skeleton light never looked up. It's pretty. Oh my gosh
582
00:28:04,780 --> 00:28:07,580
Lots of buildings another one to add the list
583
00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:11,840
So the total cost of this lighthouse being built ended up being
584
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,280
two hundred and twenty four and a half thousand dollars they saw with a skill 500 bucks under
585
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,000
Under budget 25,000 underneath. Oh
586
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,160
Nice, I would have said 500 and kept the cash
587
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:31,180
That's unethical not really it's not ethical sweetheart for everyone out there that knows me that's not actually true
588
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,080
So, let's see another fun point is that this is the tallest lighthouse on the Great Lakes today
589
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,800
Oh cool. I didn't know that it doesn't look that tall from you know
590
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,840
We've talked about this lighthouses that are just out in the middle like corridor one
591
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,600
Yeah with nothing next to it. Nothing to gauge the size of it
592
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,040
It doesn't look like it's that tall but it's still pretty tall for a Great Lakes to have a second order and
593
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520
Be over a hundred feet tall is like whoa
594
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,880
So 1930 there's not a lot that happened to this lighthouse
595
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,420
so it's mostly like current things that are really exciting, but in 1930 the Illuminate was changed electricity and
596
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,760
Originally it was a white tower as you could see in the older photos that we showed
597
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,680
And I had a narrow black band at 38 feet. So yep, that's a pretty early transition. Go ahead in
598
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,880
1927 it was changed to a all-black lighthouse
599
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Which painted black was not common at all?
600
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,440
But when you think about it, it's against sky and water so black would stand out
601
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:41,880
Especially if the Sun's coming down and it's like yeah the lights reflecting like would you see white as well as you would see black?
602
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,560
I don't think so. Well and at nighttime, it's gonna be black anyways, right?
603
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:51,040
I mean the lights all you're gonna see the day mark is not really relevant at night. Black is interesting
604
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040
Yeah, and then of course, it's
605
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:59,520
Michigan so the ice gets crazy in the winter so it's important to distinguish it from that that makes sense
606
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,300
But they repainted it back to white ten years after that in 1937. Wonder why the ten years?
607
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:09,800
There's got to be lessons learned. Yeah, maybe there's a wreck or maybe it was expensive
608
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:16,720
Got dirty. I think black must have been a lot more expensive than white black cars are hard to keep clean. So
609
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,820
Oh 1954 white Scholes got the red spiral markings that we see today
610
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,520
Barber shop candy cane, what are we talking? Barber shop and candy cane refer to the same
611
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,000
This is what we originally had and there was black and then back to this original and now we have
612
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,300
This barbershop, which is the only that's cool. The only barbershop
613
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:51,460
Striped lighthouse in the US and only candy striped light on the Great Lakes. Really? Yeah, it's the only one
614
00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:57,660
Mm-hmm. I wonder if it's always been the only one. Is that ice by the way? Yes, the amount of ice is insane
615
00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:03,460
I have a picture later that kind of shows like a glacier cliff next to one of them or next to the lighthouse
616
00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:05,460
It's kind of crazy. That makes me nervous
617
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:11,620
By the way, I meant red and white barber striped is it's the only one in the US because we have like Kay Patras and
618
00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:14,740
St. Augustine which are a barber stripe, but they're black and white
619
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:20,180
Yeah, so just to specify and this is red in a black and white photo. Yes, very cool
620
00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:22,740
You see if I have a photo?
621
00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:27,300
Of it in color. Oh, yeah, awesome and embedded in ice
622
00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:34,560
Well, and that makes sense too because it's on a three foot deep water area the shoal
623
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:40,320
And so the water is gonna be able to freeze there before and in deeper water and climb up over time
624
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,200
That looks cold very Christmassy. Yeah, it is cute. Nice Christmas card
625
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,360
1976 the station was automated and de-staffed as were the lights on Grays Reef and Lansing shoals. So late
626
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,300
electrified early automated late interesting in May
627
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:03,560
2014 so we're skipping ahead White Shoals lighthouse was deemed excess by the Coast Guard and made available under the guidelines of the National Historic
628
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,760
Lighthouse Preservation Act, but nobody claimed it because it would have been
629
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760
So expensive. Yeah to
630
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,280
fix
631
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,280
Especially after being abandoned for decades. Oh
632
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,680
76 to 14. Yep. That's a lifetime. It's a long time for me
633
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,280
It was put up for bid with a starting amount of $15,000 and at the end of the high bid was
634
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:33,600
$110,000 and $9 to what would become the White Shoal light historical preservation society with the goal to fix it up to
635
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,960
1950s condition and make it available to the public for people to stay at I like that
636
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,880
Yeah, I know I like it when they make it vintage if I had the money I would buy a hundred ten thousand dollar lighthouse
637
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Yeah, but I would all I mean given what we know now
638
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,240
I would also give it to some lighthouse lighthouse friends group like true
639
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,760
some someone to help take care of it and
640
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,800
Keep it around for more than just me
641
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,200
You gotta be prepared because it's gonna be your whole life
642
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Like the amount of planning that has to go into like funding alone is insane. But also
643
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600
like you got to pay to have a
644
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,920
Boat bring supplies like if you don't even think about all those little details
645
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:19,640
This is so far offshore and you got to have even the transportation of materials in order to do
646
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,560
Any sort of renovation would be insane. Well, even if you were
647
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,640
Super wealthy
648
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:34,000
Super wealthy multiple millions tens 20s 30s millions and this is a toy of yours like you just think it's cool
649
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400
There's no standard
650
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,000
Services like like oh, I need a I need a house cleaner. So you hire one. I need someone to watch the kids
651
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560
So you hire somebody? Oh, I need someone to paint my lighthouse
652
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:52,440
I need someone to check in on the foundation for the crib like you gotta have people that are really nodule
653
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,840
Nodule nodule nodule a lighthouse nudgeable
654
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Knowledgeable each side or subject. Oh very
655
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,600
Very passionate based project. I'm sure
656
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,640
So if you go to their website, which will be linked in my show notes
657
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,840
they have a section that's called what you need to know if you're considering an overnight stay a white shawl light and
658
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:20,800
There's 19 points. A lot of them are about physical requirements that you have to climb a bunch of stairs and
659
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,000
Back and forth from like there's two bathroom floors and you don't stay on those floors. So you have to like climb back and forth
660
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,320
There's 143 steps from the deck to the lantern room
661
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,600
so it's just like a lot of climbing cell service is met and you need to bring food to cook during your stay yourself and
662
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,560
Water from the tap is straight from the lake. So you have to bring bottled water for drinking
663
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:48,080
Yeah, it's kind of like you it's an like you have your little camping. Yes. It's super cool, though
664
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,200
And once you're on the station, you are not removed until it is safe to do
665
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,320
So even if that means you stay an extra night or two
666
00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,240
Which you don't get charged for but if you're like planning on flying home the next day and you have to stay
667
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,240
Do you know do they have?
668
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520
Heating and like hot water cold air
669
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
The AC say yes to hot water
670
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,100
But no to AC and no to heat
671
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,520
Wonder what it'd be like on the lake. I mean, obviously it's weather dependent
672
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640
But like in the middle of summer
673
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:25,760
Right now right now. It's the end of July early August. So like what is it? What's the temperature of the lighthouse wonder?
674
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:32,240
But they said it's really high humidity, which is what like kind of leads to the discomfort in the lighthouse
675
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,240
but then they also talked about all of the
676
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,720
The windows that are across from each other so you get like a nice cross breeze going if you have all the windows open
677
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,880
That's awesome. You open so I took this quote straight from their website
678
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Quote you are signing up to stay at a hundred and ten year old
679
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,560
Historic structure that is currently in the process of being restored
680
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,560
You'll be provided clean private rooms and modern bathrooms during your stay
681
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,400
There are however many areas of the lighthouse that are still in their 1976 abandoned state
682
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Complete with flaking paint spiders and everything else you need you would expect to find in an old house
683
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,480
If you are envisioning modern tiled bathrooms and ornate guest quarters, this experience is not for you
684
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,480
All areas of the lighthouse are open for you to explore with the exception of our basement dungeon deck
685
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,200
What also when they say spiders I looked up what kind of spiders they're talking about because I think of like little spiders
686
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:27,280
They're talking about orb weavers. Have you seen what those look like? No, and how do they get to the lighthouse? I don't know
687
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,520
There's no one else asking that question they're talking about lots of them too. They're not like oh you may see one or two
688
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,100
It's like clusters of orb weavers. I don't know what that is
689
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:40,960
Okay, let me show you or be the cool name. I think they're harmless
690
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,600
I'm pretty sure they're harmless and you may recognize them because it sticks with you
691
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,800
These sons of it. Wow, they weave an orb long knobby legs bright colors large
692
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,260
Things you don't want to ever touch you a
693
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,920
Day in your life the venom amount comparable to the sting of a bee. Yeah, so unless you're allergic
694
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,160
It's not a problem. Just be
695
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:10,160
Very I think they're pretty tame so unlikely to bite you. You just bring a house cat with you. Oh my gosh
696
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,600
No, why you don't subject them to venom? Oh, I forgot about that part
697
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,580
We're the only ones that are important. I was thinking of the cats eating them
698
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,680
And not getting the venom
699
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,960
They pick it out. So another quote from their
700
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:33,720
List says there's a 90 minute boat ride that departs Mackinac City aboard our restored 30-foot Coast Guard utility boat, which is awesome
701
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,320
The boat has a small forward cabin for gear
702
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,720
But the passenger area is wide open to the elements depending on wind and wave conditions
703
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:45,680
You should plan on getting wet as well as your gear to and from the lighthouse. Yeah, so it's not glamorous
704
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,380
That's for sure. Also adventure is the best number 19
705
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,000
There has been paranormal activity reported by guests and staff at the light station
706
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,320
and
707
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,320
Adventure I want to go I
708
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Want to be on a boat and the worst part is you can't even get away
709
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,920
So if you're freaked out by the spiders you're freaked out by the ghosts. How do the spiders get?
710
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,920
How far is this off the coast?
711
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,760
The spiders on the waterfront like walking along the water. Am I crazy for asking these questions?
712
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,180
Can spiders swim? Why would they swim out to a lighthouse?
713
00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:22,940
Well, if they get stuck in the water they climb on to whatever they find
714
00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:28,940
So there's like one clan of spiders that's like been there for a thousand years
715
00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:30,940
Yeah
716
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:37,940
It's like the snakes we talked about snake island line where they become their own type of snake because they've been separated for so long
717
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:39,940
That would be crazy
718
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:41,940
Special orb weavers
719
00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:43,940
It's still one of our biggest YouTube hits
720
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:45,140
Really?
721
00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:48,380
I didn't get a lot of attention on our actual listener base
722
00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:53,700
Anyway for two people to stay here. It is three thousand dollars for a three night adventure package
723
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:58,480
So definitely expensive and it has a five person maximum
724
00:38:58,780 --> 00:39:05,260
But if you rent it out for five people you get fifteen hundred dollars off. So you get like a deal a little discount
725
00:39:06,020 --> 00:39:07,220
1500
726
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So is it three grand for the whole thing for a couple? Yeah, cuz like
727
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Can another couple stay there? There's three floors
728
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,600
There's one floor that can have two people one floor that has one person and another floor that has two people
729
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,600
Okay, so you basically book a floor, huh?
730
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,600
And then in between each of those so if you book the whole place they give you a not a break
731
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,600
Yeah, they give you a discount for booking
732
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Well, I don't think I can afford that right now
733
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Maybe I could stay outside. Maybe I could set up a tent be so cold
734
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It doesn't matter what time of year it is the wind and everything like good night
735
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,600
That's pretty neat so they had a question that I put on here as well there was like frequently asked questions
736
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So can we show up at the light station unannounced?
737
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And it's just the description of what you have to do is just hilarious to me
738
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Yes, you are welcome to come out to the light station at any time day or night to take pictures
739
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That does not necessarily mean you will be granted access to the structure
740
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If we happen to be open for tours, which is so funny like in the middle of nowhere like actually
741
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Middle of nowhere in the water if we're open for tours
742
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:22,600
Like if you just show up in the middle of the water and we're open, I just think it's funny
743
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,600
There's just someone sitting there at a table. Yeah, we're open. It's like how often do people come by here?
744
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Anyway, if we happen to be open for tours upon your arrival
745
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We will have a safe place for you to tie up
746
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Then we will lower you down a bucket the bucket will contain the liability waiver as well as instructions on how to pay the $30 per person fee
747
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,600
Obviously, it will be easier to have this all pre arranged
748
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,600
So I think you can call and plan to show up at the lighthouse. How far is this offshore?
749
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,600
I tried to look it up, but it's a 90 minute boat ride. So it's obviously not close. Is that the closest?
750
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Mackinaw City is the closest port. No, I don't think so
751
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:06,600
I don't think so because that's 20 miles. Do you think 20 miles is closest? There's no way there's got to be some
752
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,600
I mean, they're big lakes. I guess it's hard to look up distance from a shoreline
753
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,600
I tried it several times with lighthouses and it just gets difficult before they had to scale it on Google Maps. Yeah
754
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,600
Anyways, that's crazy
755
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,600
Once the waiver is signed and
756
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Restoration fee has been paid you and your guests will be invited onto the structure for a 90 minute guided tour
757
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,600
So I just thought it was funny. We'll lower you down a bucket
758
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,600
Like cute
759
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,600
So the lighthouse this year is closed for renovations. They've been doing it since 2018
760
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Which I'm gonna show you their plan their renovation plan
761
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,600
But I don't think it's been updated since the whole coven thing happened
762
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:51,600
So I bet it's pushed back a few years, especially because right now you can tell that the exterior paint hasn't been fixed yet
763
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:58,600
And that was supposed to happen in the first phase of their restoration. So I'll show I'll pull that up
764
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,600
Right now but they're closed this year last year. They were open for people to stay and next year
765
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,600
They're planning to be open again
766
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:13,600
2025 nice phase one was supposed to be 18 to 21 and it was basically like getting rid of the lead paint and asbestos
767
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Asbestos full engineering evaluation to figure out what had to be done. There's like all kinds of heavy reworking
768
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,600
Stabilizing the structure. So like really big stuff
769
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:31,600
They were gonna launch the tugboat Titan to transport machinery supplies and personnel from the lighthouse. That's pretty cool
770
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:37,600
All that kind of stuff install new windows interior paint prep and then new exterior paint was supposed to happen in that first phase
771
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,600
So I couldn't really find what phase they're in right now. I want to say maybe they're still in the first phase. I don't know
772
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:50,600
But second phase was supposed to be 22 through 24. That was like continued restoration through the inside
773
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Damaged glass panes in the lantern room decorative railings, etc. Rebuild massive boat house doors, which I would love to see
774
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,600
And then the last phase was 2020 for 2025 and was a lot of
775
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:11,600
Outfitting the inside with the 1950s memorabilia that we're gonna have an on-site gift shop a maritime museum
776
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,600
And then they would have full staffing and day tours and overnight bookings and all that
777
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,600
So it'll come back. Yeah, so much work. I hope so crazy
778
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,600
I this is a little silly to say if you've listened to a lot of our episodes
779
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,600
you know this or if you're in the Lighthouses, you know this but I
780
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:35,600
It's a huge effort within the entire community of lighthouse folks to connect with resources
781
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,600
Mainly funding. Yeah, I don't know their their business. Obviously. I don't know what's going on here
782
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,600
like how that funding situation is but I
783
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,600
Early on I discovered when we were getting into this a need
784
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,600
You know one of the many lighthouses that was asking for fundraising for a certain program
785
00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:01,600
Yeah, and I made a donation. I just thought it was super cool. You know this and that and
786
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600
I'm sure it did nothing. Like yeah, I I
787
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,600
This is easy for me to say it. It's always yeah
788
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:16,600
It's always easy to say this but like my what I can donate at this time is just not significant
789
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,600
But if we did have people being involved
790
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:26,600
It's like the conversation we had recently with Jeremy to extra month about how to get people younger folks like ourselves
791
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,600
into lighthouse culture
792
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,600
Vested how do we help out? How do we get tied in?
793
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,600
And obviously there's a lot of people doing a lot of work to do that. But right. Yeah, I'm sure there's people out there
794
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,600
They're looking to to donate to some cause. Yeah. So, do you know are we going to talk about is there an avenue?
795
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,600
Easily available to do it
796
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Which I have in the show notes you can donate and also you can volunteer which they're not doing right now because
797
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,600
they're
798
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Closed for like actual restoration. That's why I'm assuming that they're still in phase one
799
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,600
It's like they can't have anybody come in probably because they're working with like the lead paint and asbestos
800
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Professionals and then volunteers in between probably right cool
801
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,600
Yeah
802
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,600
So nowadays it has a white flash every five seconds and you can also purchase a license for a
803
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,600
Lighthouse and you can also purchase a license plate
804
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:23,600
I think it's just in Michigan where it has the lighthouse on it and it goes towards like the funds the extra funds goes to
805
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600
That's cool lighthouse preservation
806
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,600
Very cool. Their Facebook is a great way to keep up to date with everything to do with the lighthouse
807
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:37,600
They post I saw every couple of days. Maybe it's more than that sometimes but they they really keep up to date on what's going on
808
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,600
The lighthouse so that's also in our show notes. What is the group called that manages the lighthouse?
809
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Shol light historical preservation society. Thank you. I
810
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,600
Know you said that no
811
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,600
White shul is also this is interesting a part of Glen Great Lakes evaporation network the same group that tracks data at
812
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,600
Standard Rock with the superior watershed project
813
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,600
So it's one of several lighthouses that collect environmental data out there make sense. Yeah unique point
814
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Yeah, more point last year. They sent out four bottles with notes in them and free nights like certificates
815
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600
Whoa, lighthouse into the lake from the lighthouse. They just threw them out
816
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:20,600
And they showed up on shore and people like picked them up and got free nights at the lighthouse
817
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:26,600
And you know what they sent that we don't bottles they sent about in coke boom. Boom. No way
818
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:33,600
No, boo. Yeah, that's a for those of you who don't know it's a rum that we we quite enjoy. It's very sweet
819
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,600
Very good. But yeah, it's got a nice flavor to it. It looks like a pirate bottle. It's got a cork top
820
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Yes, it has like the skull not skull and crossbones but like the crossbones on it
821
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,600
Which is why I'm sure they selected them is because it was it's a really cool bottle. That's so funny
822
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,600
But uh, I just saw something about it. I was like, oh, that's neat
823
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,600
I wasn't gonna make a note about it and then I saw an article that had a picture of what the bottles looked like and I
824
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:59,600
Was like that's boo. There you go. Shout out to boom boo. And I think they may be doing it again this year as well
825
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:05,600
They did that last year and only one bottle never made it back to shore. It's still floating somewhere
826
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Yeah, just out there stuck in the permafrost
827
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,600
Yeah, right
828
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,600
Yeah, that's the story of white shul light house
829
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:21,600
Awesome. Really cool lighthouse. Yeah, I love the stripey's we love red. Maybe they're using what is it called?
830
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Teneemic. Teneemic. I would be surprised. Yeah, I don't I don't believe it's a cheap product. Yeah, right
831
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:37,600
Nothing but the best for our lighthouses. Yeah, if we can afford it if we can when we can afford it. Yeah
832
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:44,600
Very neat. Mm-hmm. Well, thank you very much. You're welcome. Thanks to all of our listeners for showing up
833
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834
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,600
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835
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:01,600
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836
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:09,600
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837
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,600
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